[–]Cyrius 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (4 children). You're definitely right, fits more with the shape of the body surface (very convex and with a wide rim) as well. Were you just in Seattle briefly? Shark jaws fossilize. Mobpoison660 is spot on. -Carl Sagan, Cosmos. [–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (0 children), [–]bobbysalz 50Answer Link4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children), [–]pipnestella 20Answer Link1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children). Your bone is pretty well preserved for a beach find, although most characteristic features (the extremities) have, expectedly, disappeared. It may be an old one, or even a slightly different species than you would find today. Meaning it grew there after my surgery, or what? With a more precise location, you could probably find out the age of the rocks this find originated from yourself. Israeli officials have said that a dead whale has washed up on a beach south of Tel Aviv. Typical cervical vertebrae, such as C4 or C5, have several characteristic features that differentiate them from thoracic or lumbar vertebrae (Figure 7.4.6). The major function of the vertebral column is to protect the spinal cord; it also is an attachment for many muscles. I know someone on tumblr who found bones like this (not as old though) on a beach and it turned out to be a seal. I appreciate the map. Thoracic vertebrae have sites for rib attachment, and the vertebrae that give rise to the sacrum and coccyx are fused together into single bones. That all being said - sea lions are known from the Pleistocene of the eastern North Pacific, but not from the Pliocene (there is a smaller fur seal, though). Aviad Scheinin of the Morris Kahn Marine Research Station said a team will take samples … Nov 4, 2013 - Vertebrae found on the beach in Kefalonia -unknown animal. A lot of the emails I get are people asking "I've found a bone, but what is it ? The view of the powerful waves washing right up to me was amazing enough until I looked down and found even more amazing… A wooden eel, which went missing from a park in Shropshire, has been found on a beach almost 100 miles away. Is it possible to be exposed to COVID and develop antibodies (enough to have short term immunity) without ever having a high enough viral load to test positive? I have a friend who works there and it's always exciting when an amateur finds and brings something in that is genuinely interesting and mysterious like this. Thank you for the info, I am hoping the local college professors can help me when I head to school again on Monday. It might very well be a pinniped vertebra, but possibly one of an ancient and extinct species, and not of a living mammal. It's about an inch in length.. [–]Dr_Nik -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (2 children). Does nutrition, lifestyle and environment not have influence on the duration of pregnancy? Had an MRI recently for back problems, and the spinal canal is all pinched up in there, unlike that one. The best person to ask would almost certainly be a zooarchaeologist, especially because they can refer to their own collections. [–]AerandirArchaeology | European Prehistory | Bronze Age 112 points113 points114 points 8 years ago (0 children). The parts that go all the way to the skin are called the spinous process. [–]slightlyanonusername 320Answer Link31 points32 points33 points 8 years ago (0 children). Picture: SuppliedSource:Supplied. Police spent last week scouring the coastline for more bones after the first one, believed to be a forearm, was handed in. [–]stalkingstalkers 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children). A study by Miyashita et al. [–]aaomalley 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (3 children). Sign in to follow this . Thank-you! It is probably a sea lion - either an adult male California Sea Lion (Zalophus californianus) or a subadult or female Stelller's Sea Lion (Eumetopias jubatus). (Look at your 3rd photo upsidedown. It probably isn't a whale vertebra.It looks to me to be almost identical (to my untrained eye) to a seal cervical vertebra, perhaps a harbour seal based on your location. Any ideas?? So I would consider us fairly rural. Sharks entire "skeletal structure" is made of cartilage not bone. My best guess is some kind of large mammal, such as bizon, elk or deer. Supposedly something like 90% of the dark fossils you see in museums are from La Brea. Download this stock image: An example of a spinal vertebrae bone from a dolphin, species unknown, found washed up on Chesil beach following Storm Ciara in February 2020. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: We make our world significant by the courage of our questions and by the depth of our answers. So what you're telling me is I'm destined for neck pain when I get older? There are very few of them, as they don't fossilize well. Source: I work in the OR during spinal fusions, [–]flume 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children). [–]aaomalley 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children). Please update us if you learn anything! I would agree with you that it is cervical, and to me it looks mammalian as well. The spinus process is also too small to be thoracic, unless part is broken off. Cool find! Rendered by PID 7761 on r2-app-01d272dd8df21a302 at 2021-02-28 19:49:07.579764+00:00 running b1d2781 country code: NL. Baleen plates can be more than a metre long in larger whales. How can you be so sure of the exact species from one small fossilized vertebra? A cervical vertebra found at Montara State Beach in February was positively identified as belonging to 22-year-old Richard Moss who was missing for more than a … The centrum is about the size of my palm. [–]bonelover 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children). This sort of preservational mode is not even common in the late Mio-Pliocene fossils I'm used to dealing with along the coast of California and Oregon, and is usually typical of Pleistocene fossils. I found this on the Washington coast today(views from a few random angles). Good eye. Black b - 2AX2CGE from Alamy's library of millions of high resolution … Happens in the lumbar vertebrae, and would have led to severe back pains and probably immobilization. Remains of 8 of the 18 species recorded in the northern Gulf were found:Zalophus californianus(California Sea Lion, 8 skulls),Delphinus delphis(Common Dolphin, 7 skulls),Tursiops truncatus(Bottlenose Dolphin, 6 skulls), I found this on the beach near Florence. [–]AerandirArchaeology | European Prehistory | Bronze Age 4320Answer Link431 points432 points433 points 8 years ago (74 children). I know that this is coming off a little dick-ish....but I'm interested. Riot leaves friends of U.S. stunned and frightened. David Halfon of the Nature and Parks Authority said Thursday that the animal was a fin whale calf about half the size of an adult, which can grow to more than 20 meters (about 66 feet) long. Instead of teeth, baleen whales have a series of several hundred closely packed (generally black) baleen plates on each side of the upper jaw. Knowing nothing of biology, I wondered if I did that. http://fr.biomet.be/userfiles/image/SpineSpacerNeoCif.jpg. Partial Edestus jaws have turned up in Kentucky coal mines. Oh, ok that makes more sense. Is there any reason to reject consideration of this being a facsimile? Edit3: Are the parts I circled that go all the way to the skin natural bones or are those implants? There's a partial skull of a 5 million year old proto-great white that was found in Peru in 1988. something that I found on a Washington state beach, Theoretical Physics, Experimental Physics, High-energy Physics, Solid-State Physics, Fluid Dynamics, Relativity, Quantum Physics, Plasma Physics, Mathematics, Statistics, Number Theory, Calculus, Algebra, Astronomy, Astrophysics, Cosmology, Planetary Formation, Computing, Artificial Intelligence, Machine Learning, Computability, Earth Science, Atmospheric Science, Oceanography, Geology, Mechanical Engineering, Electrical Engineering, Structural Engineering, Computer Engineering, Aerospace Engineering, Chemistry, Organic Chemistry, Polymers, Biochemistry, Social Science, Political Science, Economics, Archaeology, Anthropology, Linguistics, Biology, Evolution, Morphology, Ecology, Synthetic Biology, Microbiology, Cellular Biology, Molecular Biology, Paleontology, Psychology, Cognitive Psychology, Developmental Psychology, Abnormal, Social Psychology, Medicine, Oncology, Dentistry, Physiology, Epidemiology, Infectious Disease, Pharmacy, Human Body, Neuroscience, Neurology, Neurochemistry, Cognitive Neuroscience, AskScience AMA Series: Dr. Herman Pontzer, Human Metabolism, AskScience AMA Series: Dr. Netta Erez, Cancer Research, Ask Anything Wednesday - Physics, Astronomy, Earth and Planetary Science, AskScience AMA Series: Lucid Dreaming, NOVA, AskScience AMA Series: Fecal Transplant for Cancer Immunotherapy, Ask Anything Wednesday - Engineering, Mathematics, Computer science, Ask Anything Wednesday - Biology, Chemistry, Neuroscience, Medicine, Psychology, AskScience AMA Series: Dr. Mark Jacobson, Climate Change and Renewable Energy, Ask Anything Wednesday - Economics, Political Science, Linguistics, Anthropology, AskScience AMA Series: Preventing Embolisms. Usually older people, whose rims of the disc surface had extended along the spinal column, effectively fusing the individual bones. [–]gootenbog[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child). [–]awdixon 21 points22 points23 points 8 years ago (1 child). [–]Monograeme 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (2 children). "When we got onto the beach, we could smell something really putrid," he said. Yup, I've seen some cases where this happened. I can also do simple tests and give more information if it is needed. Thank you! What's that vertebrae so damned excited about? [–]Unwanted_opinion 15 points16 points17 points 8 years ago (9 children). Spelling error or really a difference between "bizon" and "bison?" Further DNA examination has confirmed the bone is that of Jesse Corigliano-Quealey, who went missing from the same area on October 9 last year. Oh that makes sense sorry for my mistake. There is a Roosevelt Beach right on Lake Washington just south of 520 in Seattle, which is the only one I am familiar with in the area. Your post inspired me to make a post about something that I found on a Washington state beach a long time ago. Vertebral column, in vertebrate animals, the flexible column extending from neck to tail, made of bones called vertebrae. A quick tip for picking out a cervical vertebra - look for the "smiley face". Additionally - most of the marine mammal localities of Miocene and Oligocene age in Washington yield fossils in concretions but not from soft sediment; this specimen must have come from a very poorly lithified sediment in order to remain complete like this with little adhering matrix. Don't tell anyone exactly where you found it and contact the burke museum or similar. [–]Dr_Nik 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children). All of those numbers can change within a limited range. Molecular data, however, indicates they are vertebrata closely related to lampreys. [–]boesse 12 points13 points14 points 8 years ago (0 children). I found it on the beach in Amelia Island. His mother, Jane Corigliano, told the Adelaide Advertiser last year that it was “out of character” for her son to leave everything. Your last photo sort of shows this as well). For the paleontology lover that needs help with … Police are not treating his death as suspicious, and a report is being prepared for the state coroner. Edit: Here's one of my x-rays a few months after the fact if anyone wants to see what your cervical vertebrae look like. I found it at a spot known as Roosevelt beach and it looks like the makeup of that area is between upper tertiary and quaternary sediments. It's a very cool find. Really? I found it at a spot known as Roosevelt beach and it looks like the makeup of that area is between upper tertiary and quaternary sediments. [–]micro_cam 110Answer Link10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (0 children). gootenbog, if you x-post to r/paleontology, there's definitely some coastal mammal specialists who could help you there. The baleen will often be missing by the time a skull washes up on a beach. In humans, it further transmits body … Picture: NCA NewsWire / Brenton EdwardsSource:News Corp Australia. Yeah man, I wish my vertebrae looked that good. Also, I can confirm that this is a cervical vertebra. These vertebrae are most often found in reptiles, but are found in some amphibians such as frogs. That is a seriously cool find man, I would hold on to it like it was damn gold. They are natural. It does not strike me as a phocid vertebrae. What are they called? [–]an_enigma 12 points13 points14 points 8 years ago (3 children). Find out more about our policy and your choices, including how to opt-out. [–]miss-saurus 60Answer Link5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (1 child). A bone found by a dog walker on a South Australian beach have been confirmed to be that of a man missing from the area for four months. That was the best science lecture I've ever attended. PS You could contact the Burke Museum at UW (Seattle) and see what they say. “It’s a bit too much of a nice day,” Paddy said as the rest of us looked around at the sunlit beach and glistening, smooth sea. As far as I know, there aren't any tar pits along the washington coastline. [–]gootenbog[S] 40 points41 points42 points 8 years ago (30 children). Whilst I'm not a paleontologist, or even a specialist in marine mammals (I'm more of an ecologist), I can give you an insight to what I do know. [–]AerandirArchaeology | European Prehistory | Bronze Age 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children). That wisdom tooth looks like potential trouble. Water can move things that don't float. Considering it is on the same coast as you, I guess it is possible, but I would imagine that the sea would have damaged it more on the way up. Could you help me identify it? [–]Proclaim_the_Name 170Answer Link16 points17 points18 points 8 years ago (4 children). [–]boesse 35 points36 points37 points 8 years ago* (2 children). ", asking me to identify bones that they have found but they can't work out what they are from. A bone found on a South Australian beach last week has been confirmed as that of a 30-year-old man who has been missing since October 2020. A bone was found by a dog walker along Maslin Beach last Tuesday before police found another one the following day. “I was a bit worried about him (last time I saw him) because he was acting a bit bizarre … and he was a bit paranoid,” she said in November. Seal seems to be the general consensus so far. Ah, however, OP has stated that he has done tests to determine whether if it is fossilized, and he is quite sure that the vertebra is fossilized. They are sometimes removed if they come loose or break. Fossilized seal/sea lion. You'd most likely need a reference collection to actually narrow it down. [–]gootenbog[S] 16 points17 points18 points 8 years ago (6 children). I've always seen pictures of the recreations of what the sharks jaw would look like, with the real fossil teeth inside(Very common with Carcharodon Megalodon.) take it to a museum and give us updates please. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. Lifeguards cleaning up a beach in the US found a very intact spine believed to belong to a great white shark. Though due to the constant movement of the ocean it could be from anywhere on this or another coast within reason. Edit2: Edited the image to not contain my real name... whoops. [–]Triassic 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (1 child). (Getty Images/iStockphoto) The arm bone was found on the sand by a man walking on Tuesday night. http://fr.biomet.be/userfiles/image/SpineSpacerNeoCif.jpg They are either from cadavers or completely artificial and they usually have some metal strips in them so he can see them on X-ray. At the time, she said it had been “just terrible not knowing what happened to him”. I believed it to be wood on my very first glance and thankfully took a second. Found On Beach Today - Is This A Large Fossilized Vertebra? Once you recognize that censorship is OK in any form, you give up the game. Suspected forearm, rib bone found on beach. (paleontologist here) It's not my specialty--and its always hard to ID over photographs, but that looks mammalian to me. In your opinion, could this belong to either a sea lios or seal? [–]ImNotAWhaleBiologist 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child). People don't come to this subreddit to learn things. I'm not a native speaker. Vertebrae’s end-to-end solution empowers brands and retailers to create, manage, distribute, and optimize 3D & AR commerce experiences. It looks like a vertebra of some type, but I can find no images of similar ones online. [–]JohnnyRompain 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child). [–]Cyrius 16 points17 points18 points 8 years ago (2 children). Well, again, if you admit that, you just voted for CISPA. The placement of hagfish has been controversial. Edit: What I am really saying is that I do not understand why Reddit's own and very public censorship policy (simply downvoting comments that are bad) does not apparently work in this subreddit? [–]gootenbog[S] 29 points30 points31 points 8 years ago (9 children). [–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (4 children). Looking at this find and handling it, a couple people wondered if this is a work of nature or something artificially manufactured. As someone who just spent the last semester elbows deep in a dogfish shark: sharks most certainly do have vertebrae, it's just made of cartilage. This maintains proper disc height and stabilization. But seriously, if you are in the Harbor it is not a terrible situation to pop in to Seattle if you are able to arrange an appointment with a professor at one of the universities (though you may be better off going with PLU in Tacoma if they have an archeology program). The doc takes out the disc between the two vertebral bodies. Picture: NCA NewsWire / Brenton EdwardsSource:News Corp Australia. What is the Yukawa potential calculating? I looked up a few home tests to see if it was possibly fossilized. It consists of a sequence of vertebrae (singular = vertebra), each of which is separated and united by an intervertebral disc.Together, the vertebrae and intervertebral discs form the vertebral column. I feel fairly comfortable in suggesting that it is, indeed, from an otarid. A member of the public found the bone last Tuesday while walking their dog along Maslin Beach and handed it in to police. I suspect there's some more, but I'm having trouble sifting through all the sites that want to sell me shark teeth and non-fossil jaws. It's also worth pointing out that it has a gigantic neural canal, which you'd only see when it's a vertebra that's very, very close to the skull. [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children), "Look at me! I will call some museums in the Seattle area. The vertebral column is a series of approximately 33 bones called vertebrae, which are separated by intervertebral discs.. This is a vertebra we found on a Bay of Fundy beach. [–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children). My hunch is that it's mammalian at least, because it looks so much like a human's. (whale vertebrae was just a guess) I measures about 24 inches by 18 inches. © 2021 reddit inc. All rights reserved. [–]gootenbog[S] 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (3 children). Yet, for some reason, it does not apply to this particular subreddit? I thought you said you found this at Roosevelt beach? I live in a very rural area and highly doubt there is a natural museum in the few surrounding counties. Bizon is the Dutch spelling. I have a feeling it was uncovered by the water instead of being pushed up by the water. Came here to say this-- do it, then update us! Going with the mammalian guess here, I'd say you should try and compare some seal bones to this. [–]pylori 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (2 children). No, not at all. isn't the body too big to even be considered for c1 or c2? Very cool spot to pick up some cool stuff! [–]AerandirArchaeology | European Prehistory | Bronze Age 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (2 children). [–]Kupkin 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children). He then puts a bone graft in its place. The sheer bulk of fossil pinnipeds from Washington are primitive "enaliarctine" pinnipeds and desmatophocid seals like Allodesmus; the former are too small to yield vertebrae of this size, and desmatophocids have a different vertebral morphology than this specimen. That is the crack in the door that they need. We probably can figure out what it is! Most vertebrae were in good condition, suggesting that most bones arrived on the beach recently. The fact that it is dark like that indicates that it is from a tar pit. The third largest is the Great White Shark and then finally the largest non-shark is an Ocean Sunfish. That is why the only remains they've ever been able to find for ancient extinct sharks is their teeth. I learned something new so yes it did, thank you very much. Can years long chronic depression IRREVERSIBLY "damage" the brain/ reduce or eliminate the ability to viscerally feel emotions? UW is likely your best bet because of their marine biology department, though I am not familiar with the archaeology programs in the area. Watch Queue Queue The large spinal canal also fits with cervical (though could be lumbar). However I've never heard of a fossilized jaw. The transverse foramina are the "eyes" of the smiley face, and the vertebral foramina (the big hole where the spinal cord goes) has a characteristic curved shape that looks like a smile. Yep. Jesse Corigliano-Quealey’s bones were found on a South Australian beach last week. [–]lanceamatic 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (2 children), you really dont have to delete your origional post, it makes it hard to follow the conversation later on, plus it makes you seem like you're deleting it just to not look bad. Basically a natural version of flume's situation. [–]Shin-LaC -5 points-4 points-3 points 8 years ago (1 child). Two suspected human bones have been found washed up on an Adelaide nudist beach … And we simply must admit that this very democratic and, may I say, natural approach to censorship has worked outstandingly well for Reddit as a whole. Have long-haulers or people suffering from chronic symptoms related to SARS-CoV-2 infection shown benefit from any vaccine? There's a partial skull of a 5 million year old proto-great white that was found in Peru in 1988. A NOTE ABOUT RELEVANT ADVERTISING: We collect information about the content (including ads) you use across this site and use it to make both advertising and content more relevant to you on our network and other sites. I also asked the Oregon Coast Aquarium but got no response. If not for the titanium parts, would you still be able to look at it and recognize it for what it is (i.e., does it look like someone glued my vertebrae together)? That seems like a reasonable idea. 'Angry' Pence navigates fallout from rift with Trump. I currently get about 750 emails a year and I try to respond to every single one of them. You mean this occurs naturally in some people? Source: La Brea tar pit museum. Picture: SuppliedSource:Supplied. [–]99trumpetsEndocrinology | Conservation Biology | Animal Behavior 65 points66 points67 points 8 years ago* (3 children). [–][deleted] 20Answer Link1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children). The simplest distinction between thoracic and cervical vertebrae is that thoracic vertebrae have ribs coming off of them. Marine Biologist here. I hope those downvotes have taught you a lesson. If a nursing mom receives the COVID vaccine, will protective antibodies be transferred to the baby via breastmilk, essentially helping to “immunize” the baby who can’t yet receive the vaccine? Other to check would be PLU, Seattle U, and possibly WWU depending on where you live. When the vertebra is right side up, the spinous process (the pointy part at the back) should slope downward. If I take a look at the geological map of Washington, the coast seems to be made up of a complex patchwork of tertiary and re-worked tertiary (quaternary) sediments. and join one of thousands of communities. A bone found on a South Australian beach last week has been confirmed as that of a 30-year-old man who has been missing since October 2020. What percentage of genes are purely human? :D I come from a dead animal! news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site>news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site, Minister rape claims: Warning to Scott Morrison in letter. It may be, though the decay in some parts of the bone give those same bubbles that normal white bones seem to have when they are decayed. Going to have that operated on pretty soon. Though due to the constant movement of the ocean it could be from anywhere on this or another coast within reason. [–]cactuscat 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children). It's not an unreasonable question. Sure enough, its clinks like rock against metal and does not smoke when I hold flame to it. The size seems good to me, and some of the protruding parts may have been broken off. That very well may be the case that it is a fossil - and I can tell you this: It is not a Pre-Pleistocene pinniped fossil; in Washington state, all pre-Pleistocene pinniped fossil sites are Oligocene or earliest Miocene in age, and there is one late Miocene fossil site. [–]gootenbog[S] 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children). The inner edges are frayed and strands intertwine to form a sieve. [–]boesse 700Answer Link69 points70 points71 points 8 years ago (6 children). there is newly placed bone between the vertebral bodies. Found a fossil? I found a dark vertebrae on the beach, can anyone help identify it? There were so many fossils!! Watch Queue Queue. Thanks, Kathryn Clark, Florence, OR × He frequents r/paleontology and would be glad to help I'm sure. The lumbar vertebrae take most of your body weight, your neck ones do not. Rocks don't float and yet they are washed up onto the shore every day. It is about 3" tall and about 3" from tip to tip of the "horns." Evolutionary Biology | Ecology | Functional Morphology, Genetics | Gene Regulation | Bacterial Genetics, Veterinary Medicine | Microbiology | Pathology, Archaeology | European Prehistory | Bronze Age, Endocrinology | Conservation Biology | Animal Behavior. You can tell this by the hole (transverse foreman) at each side between the anterior and posterior tubercle. The vertebral column is also known as the spinal column or spine (Figure 1). But it wasn't the large, snake-like shape of the vertebrae that caught his attention at first. [–]common_user_name -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children), [–]jianfzduheo 150Answer Link14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago (0 children). 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